tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post116271356385862007..comments2023-11-03T11:32:01.540+00:00Comments on Thought Experiments : The Blog: IQ and AfricaBryan Appleyardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08276787058430388582noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-19364995881001491932011-03-09T16:43:58.116+00:002011-03-09T16:43:58.116+00:00Hello, I'm a student in Africa studying mathem...Hello, I'm a student in Africa studying mathematics. A friend and I recently discussed this topic, regarding the book "The Bell Curve" and others that assert that blacks are genetically disadvantaged. This was quite shocking to hear since, evolutionarily speaking, Africans had to go through more hardships that would have put selective pressures on increasing ingenuity (but that'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-82899957733083639062010-07-04T23:28:18.582+00:002010-07-04T23:28:18.582+00:00What is intelligence? Is intelligence building the...What is intelligence? Is intelligence building the atomic bomb? The weapon of your own destruction? Is intelligence destroying the very condition of your survival, just the way some have decimated their entire fauna and flora in no time? Certainly Africa has been proven to be the longest inhabited region of the world yet Africans have managed to keep the most pristine fauna and flora on the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-64660105046198209842010-01-13T13:33:22.560+00:002010-01-13T13:33:22.560+00:00IQ results are not cross culturally justifiable in...IQ results are not cross culturally justifiable in ascertaining true innate intelligence. I can list countless simple traditional tests, riddles, verbal anagrams and quantitative logics, used in testing the intelligence of toddlers in remote villages in Africa, as early as the 13th century, and if I were to subject either East Asians or Europeans with supposedly high IQs to these simple tests I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-72385406573856147202009-11-11T20:49:50.630+00:002009-11-11T20:49:50.630+00:00Nobel-winner James Watson
Nobel-Winner William Sho...Nobel-winner James Watson<br />Nobel-Winner William Shockley<br />University of Calfornia's Arthur Jensen<br />Harvard University: Murray & Hernstein<br />London University Han Eyseck<br />Researcher Rihcard Lynn.<br /><br />All science-journals have publishing the same data for 50-100 years now.<br /><br />African IQ 70 in africa. 85 in usa.<br />Facts known to the world. <br />Truth Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-40342881580649615272009-07-08T15:49:02.857+00:002009-07-08T15:49:02.857+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.atiiyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11957269459258901960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-39196357836534535512009-05-18T12:22:00.000+00:002009-05-18T12:22:00.000+00:00The other day a friend of mine had some trouble wi...The other day a friend of mine had some trouble with his aeroplane and had to parachute over central Africa. When he landed Albert Einstein and a typical African male offered to help him to safety. Who did he chose?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-14836485518257693102009-02-08T05:25:00.000+00:002009-02-08T05:25:00.000+00:00the lolz of my last comment aside (it was all 4 th...the lolz of my last comment aside (it was all 4 the lulz...)<BR/><BR/>if u study human migration and humans staying in ONE place...<BR/><BR/>Africans stayed in one place since begining... their IQs are like in the 70s.<BR/><BR/>East asians and germanic tribes moved FUCK LOADS b4 settling.<BR/><BR/>Jews settled 50 years ago - i also doubt it's permanent.<BR/><BR/>Native american IQ is not Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-25859258162715723802008-11-04T06:12:00.000+00:002008-11-04T06:12:00.000+00:00Good article Bryan.I'm with the posters calling Oc...Good article Bryan.<BR/>I'm with the posters calling Occam's razor on this one. Anecdotal observation provides so much evidence that I find it hard to ignore:<BR/>African nations do badly (compared not just to Caucasian but South and East Asian nations), african immigrants to other nations do badly (compared not just to Caucasians but South and East Asian immigrants) and the preponderance of Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904236380256592831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-3564396863187343802008-10-20T00:40:00.000+00:002008-10-20T00:40:00.000+00:00Remember the figures are averages, there is overla...Remember the figures are averages, there is overlap amongst groups. However, the media has consistently adopted the view that IQ studies are discredited. They aren't. In fact, they quite strongly predict academic performance. For instance, East Asians have a higher average than whites, and this is reflected in better graduation rates. Also, research shows that Ashkenazi Jews have a particularly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-60561560678620246462008-07-29T15:33:00.000+00:002008-07-29T15:33:00.000+00:00unfortunately this board has become a racist board...unfortunately this board has become a racist board where people seem to be more interesting in finding uncorrelated and uncorrobarated data to run down people with black skin color.<BR/>Trevor:<BR/>The mere fact there is abject poverty and disease is a symptom rather than the cause of their failure<BR/><BR/>I believe you will have to substantiate your claim ..writing a sentence on a board doesnt Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-75331309479463915642008-05-11T19:30:00.000+00:002008-05-11T19:30:00.000+00:00Interesting Article. I believe the truth about Afr...Interesting Article. I believe the truth about Africa's poor performance in virtually all categories of human development is NOT just because of poor nutrition and disease. The mere fact there is abject poverty and disease is a symptom rather than the cause of their failure. All human cultures and racial groups have had to overcome these same life challenges, some cultures thrived, and others Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-30563593024811052152008-02-04T00:24:00.000+00:002008-02-04T00:24:00.000+00:00There is a very good study on the effect of nutrit...There is a very good study on the effect of nutrition and IQ. Yahoo had an article on the study just recently: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080201/hl_afp/healthnutritioneducation;_ylt=AowBlY7vpuFfPVhYn_OhdBbVJRIF<BR/><BR/>Adult wages are improved, men are stronger, and women smarter when given even a little bit better nutrition as young children.<BR/><BR/>Keep in mind, this was in an area Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-47541253857153228312008-02-03T05:33:00.000+00:002008-02-03T05:33:00.000+00:00I get upset about people getting upset about anyth...I get upset about people getting upset about anything just because it doesn't suit their PC notion of the world. It would be nice to see back up studies on this IQ thing, which really must be affected by conditions and intergenerational issues.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-3102129776350415252007-11-19T07:06:00.000+00:002007-11-19T07:06:00.000+00:00Going by this theory China and India probably had ...Going by this theory China and India probably had a really poor IQ. They were both extremely poor nations. Their rapid development and double digit GDP growth in recent year must be due to some miracle potion that increased their IQ ?? <BR/><BR/>The only use or relevance that these western IQ tests have for <BR/>People in Darfur and Ethiopia is probably burning them in bonfire to cook food or Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-63538945383983802192007-11-19T06:59:00.000+00:002007-11-19T06:59:00.000+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.meenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758404705599919523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-50434173018394192212007-11-04T07:10:00.000+00:002007-11-04T07:10:00.000+00:00I'm an African living in Kenya who has just taken ...I'm an African living in Kenya who has just taken an online IQ test and scored 113. The test was culturally biased since some questions mentioned pies and ducks, stuff that most Africans have never heard of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-11369838227306480402007-08-29T08:00:00.000+00:002007-08-29T08:00:00.000+00:00I live in Africa and cant seem to find a reason wh...I live in Africa and cant seem to find a reason why it is in this state of permanent poverty when billions in aid have come our way. It does boil down to IQ I'm afraid. Intelligent decisions made at government level are rare and as usual the poor will always remain poor so that fat cats can benefit. Democracy is just a word and not really practiced. Crime and corruption is the order of the day Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-19530660599820082342007-08-27T22:53:00.000+00:002007-08-27T22:53:00.000+00:00And let us mention in passing that many "non-white...And let us mention in passing that many "non-white" groups do very well on these tests that the excuse makers responding to this post believe to be so biased towards whites. Why do East Asians score so well? Why to Eskimos have an average IQ one standard deviation above blacks? Your shopworn , flippant attempts to disregard what this data means is being crushed repeatedly in the laboratory. You Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-51192671001677145602007-04-21T15:36:00.000+00:002007-04-21T15:36:00.000+00:00What kind of IQ will we have a a norm in say 500 y...What kind of IQ will we have a a norm in say 500 years?<BR/><BR/>/PatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-14150841305476994972007-01-03T13:20:00.000+00:002007-01-03T13:20:00.000+00:00"I think if anything - and I stress anything - thi..."I think if anything - and I stress anything - this study shows that the western world as a whole is culturally set up for European-whites to succeed. Rather than such an IQ test being a true indicator of intelligence, I believe it shows that non-whites are inherently disadvantaged - not in terms of education, entrepreneurship, etc, but in terms of instinctively understanding the western world."<Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-1162856136036092392006-11-06T23:35:00.000+00:002006-11-06T23:35:00.000+00:00I think if anything - and I stress anything - this...I think if anything - and I stress anything - this study shows that the western world as a whole is culturally set up for European-whites to succeed. Rather than such an IQ test being a true indicator of intelligence, I believe it shows that non-whites are inherently disadvantaged - not in terms of education, entrepreneurship, etc, but in terms of instinctively understanding the western world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-1162838827957670692006-11-06T18:47:00.000+00:002006-11-06T18:47:00.000+00:00Bryan, surely most IQ tests are testing basic ment...Bryan, surely most IQ tests are testing basic mental speed and agility, and this kind of intelligence is a universal requirement for survival and prosperity? The basic mental capabilities required for survival and prosperity on the African savannah, are the same capabilities which are also being employed in the First World to develop modern medicine and technology; the difference is simply Gordon McCabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09151162643523937086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-1162829846739970892006-11-06T16:17:00.000+00:002006-11-06T16:17:00.000+00:00...What a lot of rubbish you people spout. What ab......What a lot of rubbish you people spout. What about the possibility that part of the discrepancy is simply due to malnutrition?...<BR/><BR/>Which is very much,in an intergenerational sense, linked to low IQ.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-1162790653736364522006-11-06T05:24:00.000+00:002006-11-06T05:24:00.000+00:00Allan, I think we broadly agree. But you have miss...Allan, I think we broadly agree. But you have missed out one key point in my post. I don't blame you I was trying to get a lot in very few words - I hate long posts. The point was that, whatever kind of intelligence IQ tests measures in the west, it is a kind that is very good at producing certain technologies. These technologies - antibiotics, efficient agriculture, effective engineering, Bryan Appleyardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08276787058430388582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-1162770177227263052006-11-05T23:42:00.000+00:002006-11-05T23:42:00.000+00:00What a lot of rubbish you people spout. What abou...What a lot of rubbish you people spout. What about the possibility that part of the discrepancy is simply due to malnutrition? This proposition has the great merit that it can be tested.deariemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654632450454559188noreply@blogger.com