tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post3510448532114183380..comments2023-11-03T11:32:01.540+00:00Comments on Thought Experiments : The Blog: Gray, the Boy David and ThatcherBryan Appleyardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08276787058430388582noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-55711429156967705892007-09-23T23:43:00.000+00:002007-09-23T23:43:00.000+00:00Interesting to see Bryan once again lining up with...Interesting to see Bryan once again lining up with the optimistic John Gray. And it is remarkable that Thatcher gets it in the neck again too. The Victorians were pretty freewheeling and indiovdualistic you know. Nowadays it seems everybody is allowed to admire her so long as everybody blames her too. An element in modern society that has grown out of all recognition over the past twenty yearsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-66775578833209938562007-09-23T15:44:00.000+00:002007-09-23T15:44:00.000+00:00Some good points in the article but a lot of hogwa...Some good points in the article but a lot of hogwash too. Any politician with any ability ought to be able to sense the mood of a country getting sick to death of the incompetence, double-standards and hypocrisy running rampant currently. High levels of emigration are a reflection of this unease. Cameron ought to be tapping into this. Gordon Brown has played his hand well so far, but he is one ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-7565603233897747872007-09-23T09:52:00.000+00:002007-09-23T09:52:00.000+00:00Well, based at least on your press, as well as pop...Well, based at least on your press, as well as popular novels and the British police mysteries I so love, it does seem to be a frequent theme on both the left and a good portion of the right that Thatcher, in addition to all the economic reforms, somehow changed your national character. More and more the bad guy is not some corrupt aristocrat, but rather a gauche, amoral Titmus-like character Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-81719770067663128562007-09-22T21:10:00.000+00:002007-09-22T21:10:00.000+00:00It's been a while since I read him but I can't rem...It's been a while since I read him but I can't remember Hayek saying anything along the lines of economic freedom will result in "a return to bourgeois Victorian values". Nor can I recall the 'Blessed Margaret' saying anything similar. Alas, she only managed to *pause* the state's interference in family matters, not stop it all together, so the chances of any values other than 'it's me rights, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-26253491930811293392007-09-22T19:35:00.000+00:002007-09-22T19:35:00.000+00:00Peter - the question of responsibility is a red he...Peter - the question of responsibility is a red herring, the point is that the social changes wrought since the sixties are unlikely to be reversed. It is significant, I think, that you mention religion. Britain's political elite continue's to act as if religion is a potent motivating factor in British live's (support for faith schools etc) when church attendance is plummeting and people aged 18 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-11203837821317687452007-09-22T15:42:00.000+00:002007-09-22T15:42:00.000+00:00'Created' may be the wrong word but the main point...'Created' may be the wrong word but the main point is unaffected.Bryan Appleyardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08276787058430388582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-33954245617101062612007-09-22T15:16:00.000+00:002007-09-22T15:16:00.000+00:00Exactly Peter.Exactly Peter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-71871103164975376502007-09-22T12:28:00.000+00:002007-09-22T12:28:00.000+00:00Why "created"? Surely Mrs. Thatcher isn't respons...Why "created"? Surely Mrs. Thatcher isn't responsible for the 60's, the sexual revolution and the decline of religion? Or <A HREF="http://www.spectator.co.uk/archive/features/162011/the-establishment-is-dead-but-something-worse-has-replaced-it.thtml" REL="nofollow">this</A>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com