tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post3714616097879797324..comments2023-11-03T11:32:01.540+00:00Comments on Thought Experiments : The Blog: Golliwogs, Race and the OiksBryan Appleyardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08276787058430388582noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-23972139917882329132009-02-07T15:56:00.000+00:002009-02-07T15:56:00.000+00:00You're wrong. From what I've read:Carol used racis...You're wrong. <BR/><BR/>From what I've read:<BR/><BR/>Carol used racist language in the workplace, she offended colleagues, and then refused to apologise.<BR/><BR/>She's an employee - so has to stick to her employee's rules. That's it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-2041003782020656682009-02-06T21:07:00.000+00:002009-02-06T21:07:00.000+00:00The Guardian's online poll was showing 49.9% for t...The Guardian's <A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/poll/2009/feb/06/bbc-television" REL="nofollow">online poll</A> was showing 49.9% for the BBC, 51.1% against when I voted a few hours ago. I could so easily have been the .1%. But it shows how finely balanced the issue is, at large.Richard Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10005416556432927671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-89192946613812760982009-02-06T18:48:00.000+00:002009-02-06T18:48:00.000+00:00Just in case you are Carol, Carol...would you plea...Just in case you are Carol, Carol...would you please ask your mum, ill though she is, to come out of retirement and remove Browns goolies and stuff them into his empty optic socket.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and Baby Grumplin, that comment you made down in Oz about the porridge scoffing Cyclops is the only sensible thing you've ever said.maltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936465848907794425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-81984703726273772632009-02-06T15:06:00.000+00:002009-02-06T15:06:00.000+00:00imagine we lived in south africa and they produces...imagine we lived in south africa and they produces a doll called the 'blood-clot-doll'.<BR/><BR/>now imagine that after many years society agreed that this doll was racist.<BR/><BR/>is it really correct for someone to 'forget' this and mention the blood-clot-doll.<BR/><BR/>not just anyone, but a person of her status, on TV!!<BR/><BR/>no, "i dont forget" and say stuff because the simple fact is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-27481162447845543652009-02-06T11:55:00.000+00:002009-02-06T11:55:00.000+00:00Bryan, a bit surprised not to see you posting on t...Bryan, a bit surprised not to see you posting on the Tarkovsky article in the Guardian. In my view Stalker is not the best Tarkovsky. But I might need to watch it again to make sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-36756149097857664632009-02-05T20:39:00.000+00:002009-02-05T20:39:00.000+00:00Passerby: Trifle with Uncle Ben or Aunt Jemima at ...Passerby: Trifle with Uncle Ben or Aunt Jemima at your peril.Randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03071928294799081845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-38663455570665353302009-02-05T20:23:00.000+00:002009-02-05T20:23:00.000+00:00Adrian Chiles is the missing link between ape and ...Adrian Chiles is the missing link between ape and man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-19222191498690557222009-02-05T20:01:00.000+00:002009-02-05T20:01:00.000+00:00David J, with respect, I deeply disagree. If Thatc...David J, with respect, I deeply disagree. If Thatcher is not a racist - and I'm happy to take the word of <A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/feb/04/michael-white-racism" REL="nofollow">Michael White</A> and many others that know her for that - then her use of the dreaded g-word is positively endearing. She really doesn't get it. Nor should she made to get it. Her refusal to do Richard Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10005416556432927671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-2183429133993523292009-02-05T18:56:00.000+00:002009-02-05T18:56:00.000+00:00The BBC announced tonight that one of its employee...The BBC announced tonight that one of its employees, Jay Hunt has changed her name by deed poll to Witch Hunt.<BR/>Hunt declined to comment on that subject but stated that her remarks earlier in the day were not the ramblings of a strident fascist, just those of a typical BBC manager.maltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936465848907794425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-66901292489457136802009-02-05T18:43:00.000+00:002009-02-05T18:43:00.000+00:00Help...I have a problem, I dont know if its still ...Help...I have a problem, I dont know if its still PC to use uncle Bens rice? Shall I give the blessed beeb a call?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-84828979279804010032009-02-05T17:35:00.000+00:002009-02-05T17:35:00.000+00:00But who on earth uses a term like 'Golliwog' these...But who on earth uses a term like 'Golliwog' these days anyway? Anyone with half a brain must know that at best it's disrespectful to black people, and at worst insulting, let alone in using it to describe a black person. This wasn't a 'private' comment: there were BBC staff there too. A simple apology would have deflated the whole event.<BR/><BR/>If the BBC are wrong, then it's in operating David Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05267597015131132571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-73350100223512975652009-02-05T14:29:00.000+00:002009-02-05T14:29:00.000+00:00My guess is this is mostly about paranoid protecti...My guess is this is mostly about paranoid protection of the popular one show. Any hint of controversy anywhere near it will result in them kneeing themselves in the mouth like this.simbnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00811721880591573545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-45879169063703146892009-02-05T13:17:00.000+00:002009-02-05T13:17:00.000+00:00There were three people in the green room whose na...There were three people in the green room whose names we know. Here's my verdict.<BR/><BR/>Thatcher: brilliant for refusing to go along with the media circus and make the grovelling public apology demanded to keep her job, having made a private one.<BR/><BR/>Chiles and Brand: disgraceful not to have come out publicly in support of her. If this was on top of challenging her at the time about a Richard Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10005416556432927671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-62072177255500211632009-02-05T12:27:00.000+00:002009-02-05T12:27:00.000+00:00The drama series The Wire is scatter gunned with t...The drama series The Wire is scatter gunned with the word nigger, used by coloured American actors, the series is immensely enjoyable, I bought the DVDs from Amazon, can I then say that, on behalf of coloured Britons, Amazon is marketing racially offensive material and by purchasing it I am condoning that racism?<BR/><BR/>Personally, I detest the individuals within successive governments who havemaltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936465848907794425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-46279780175447265202009-02-05T11:53:00.000+00:002009-02-05T11:53:00.000+00:00Okay, I'm prepared to believe the BBC is racist. S...Okay, I'm prepared to believe the BBC is racist. So, what would you have them do with her?<BR/><BR/>What is a racist? Is it someone who marches with a placard saying ''blacks out!'' or someone who mindlessly holds that it is better to be of one kind than another? And if she is that dim, why is she being paid out of the licence fee to be a journalist?Ian russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106519805045337505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-73300480108028205012009-02-05T11:49:00.000+00:002009-02-05T11:49:00.000+00:00Oh and I the woman from the Museum of Childhood (a...Oh and I the woman from the Museum of Childhood (also on the radio this morning) was all for golliwogs and wuld like to see them relaunched as a p toy. I don't suppose we'll be hearing from her again...Nigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13314891387515045404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-29763489608568667972009-02-05T11:46:00.001+00:002009-02-05T11:46:00.001+00:00Yes, and Jeremy Hardy and others happily raise la...Yes, and Jeremy Hardy and others happily raise laughs out of mocking Carol T's mother for being old and having had a stroke and openly wishing her dead - none of this is 'offensive'. <BR/>I noticed that ghastly Jay Hunt person said that Carol T 'described' the tennis player 'as a golliwog'. Did she? Did she say 'X is a golliwog'? That's describing, and I very much doubt she did. Or did she Nigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13314891387515045404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-80872831901491301192009-02-05T11:46:00.000+00:002009-02-05T11:46:00.000+00:00Goodness knows what the metropolitan mind controll...Goodness knows what the metropolitan mind controllers would have done with the Robertsons Jam Factory in SE6, their logo was a golliwog. None of the workforce minded and 75% of them were coloured.<BR/><BR/>And could you explain in plain English Michael said, how saying the word golliwog within the BBCs gulag is offensive when the organisation itself is, to the mugs who fund its lifestyle, an maltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936465848907794425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-47333940717417101142009-02-05T11:33:00.000+00:002009-02-05T11:33:00.000+00:00This morning Jay Hunt said Johnathan Ross was diff...This morning Jay Hunt said Johnathan Ross was different because he apologised, unlike Carol Thatcher. <BR/><BR/>Ross's comments were broadcast, unlike Thatcher's, and no-one at the BBC saw fit to censure them before they went out on air. <BR/><BR/>A polytechnic marxism permeates the culture. The News Quiz has Jeremy Hardy, supporter of the Socialist Alliance, who recommended that BNP Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-28157569340889176562009-02-05T10:06:00.000+00:002009-02-05T10:06:00.000+00:00The Obama point is fundamental. And fundamentally ...The Obama point is fundamental. And fundamentally screwed. When people - yes that includes you Jon Snow, Simon Schama, Andrew Sullivan, Uncle Tom Cobleigh and the BBC all - insist on focusing on his colour as his most important positive feature they fail to take into account that when things go wrong, which they will, his colour will also be attached to that. When you insist on judging people Recusanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11446741817585462393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-41049045994312990742009-02-05T09:54:00.000+00:002009-02-05T09:54:00.000+00:00It is a peculiar kind of racism. That guy in the B...It is a peculiar kind of racism. That guy in the BBC can get away with saying the Beeb is still 'ridiculously white', that's fine, indeed the liberals sit up and applaud. What if he'd said 'the Curry Mile in Rusholme (Manchester) is ridiculously Asian'? <BR/><BR/>Likewise with the prayer furore - it's not about religion per se, it's an attack on Christianity. If a Jihaddist death commando nurse Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-43270885773526328972009-02-05T09:38:00.000+00:002009-02-05T09:38:00.000+00:00The problem is the political "left"Yep I know, you...The problem is the political "left"<BR/>Yep I know, you dont think it counts for much, but I do.<BR/><BR/>Left wing thinking still even as it has evolved into the "catholic collectivism" that it is now, is still a monist/materialist thought process.<BR/><BR/>Thus "social constructions" are still out of bounds for them. <BR/><BR/>Society, markets, religion, monarchy, family, marriage ect all fall Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-50526067697573587172009-02-05T09:16:00.000+00:002009-02-05T09:16:00.000+00:00I'm not sure this bullying carry-on is just from t...I'm not sure this bullying carry-on is just from the BBC. What about that nurse who was recently suspended for allegedly breaching "equality and diversity" guidelines in the NHS because she offered to pray for a patient. Same mindset, same "hypertrophied awareness of difference". I suspect we tend to concentrate on the BBC because it conducts more of its affairs in public than do the little Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06074816573442173758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-36141381403854741242009-02-05T08:27:00.000+00:002009-02-05T08:27:00.000+00:00But we are a deeply racist society, not just becau...<I>But we are a deeply racist society, not just because we discriminate against minorities but because we all discriminate against each other by insisting on this hypertrophied awareness of difference.</I><BR/><BR/>That's just the Boomers. It's not true of subsequent generations, apart obviously from a few idiots, such as BBC suits.<BR/><BR/>It's the 'Seasons Greetings' mentality. Some people Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-19008712863583081432009-02-05T08:12:00.000+00:002009-02-05T08:12:00.000+00:00I, for one like Carol T, she is a bit of a goer. A...I, for one like Carol T, she is a bit of a goer. And while I was not a fan of Mrs T, esp' in the last years when she had the bit between the teeth. That programme Carol T was on showed she was a bit of fun and had balls.<BR/>But this is an age thing, Ms T is of an age where the dolls were freely on sale. And when very few made the connection between the dolls and people. And while comparing some Vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09442327549417743472noreply@blogger.com