tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post3842596358363628774..comments2023-11-03T11:32:01.540+00:00Comments on Thought Experiments : The Blog: The American Way of DeathBryan Appleyardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08276787058430388582noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-20735492348982563822009-11-03T02:52:55.843+00:002009-11-03T02:52:55.843+00:00In order to enlarge and refresh our market,with th...In order to enlarge and refresh our market,with the advent of Thanksgiving Day,we encourage both newcomers and loyal customers to browse our sale promotions.The price of our AF Men Trousers,ED Hardy Handbag or ED Hardy Women Suitsare lowest than anytime and anywhere,there are also lots ED Hardy Women Jeans and UGG 5818 Sienna Miller that you can choose of course high quality.If the goods you Ed Hardy Clothinghttp://www.edfashionclothes.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-30963634764830059752009-11-03T02:50:01.034+00:002009-11-03T02:50:01.034+00:00Thank you for the great job!In order to meet Thank...Thank you for the great job!In order to meet Thanksgiving Day, recently,our company is on ugg boots promotional sales and the prices of all products such as UGG Sienna Miller or UGG 5803 Bailey Button are lower than any time!And the biggest surprise is that you can buy one get one free,that is once you buy an ugg classic short , ugg 5125 coquette, or uggs snenna mille,you can get an belt, wallet,UGG Bootshttp://www.uggsnowbootsbest.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-33775032086969103642009-11-03T02:48:29.440+00:002009-11-03T02:48:29.440+00:00Activity is the only road to knowledge . 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We strive everyday to put ourselves out of business, but we can weather any storm."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-5495460452280664502009-09-05T22:29:01.006+00:002009-09-05T22:29:01.006+00:00God almighty, that's 16% of their income! $50...God almighty, that's 16% of their income! $50,000 is not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things, and spending 16% of that on <i>health insurance</i> beggars belief.<br /><br />Besides, even if the product was faultless then it would be too much money to pay. There are too many ways that the health insurance providers can wriggle out of their obligations: no coverage for pre-existing Scope Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01917477822313579400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-85635043671039873602009-09-04T22:29:33.338+00:002009-09-04T22:29:33.338+00:00Not to be too cryptic, but why shouldn't we ex...Not to be too cryptic, but why shouldn't we expect two adults making $50,000 to spend $8,000 on health insurance? And if they choose not to, why should we object?<br /><br />Why shouldn't we expect a family of four making $70,000 to spend $12,000 on health insurance? And if they choose not to, why should we object?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16902329503560660425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-35891400318446704662009-09-04T22:27:26.192+00:002009-09-04T22:27:26.192+00:00Tom: I have no idea what your point is. If your ...Tom: I have no idea what your point is. If your point is that our system is not perfect, then we agree.<br /><br />If you have a point, before sharing it you should note that average household income is $50,000 and average household income of a family of four is $70,000.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16902329503560660425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-25682157617565572732009-09-04T20:12:14.605+00:002009-09-04T20:12:14.605+00:00I have to laugh when people start throwing out mea...I have to laugh when people start throwing out meaningless statistics...<br /><br />THE POOR IN THE STATES GET GOVERNMENT HEALTH INSURANCE UP TO 133% OF THE POVERTY LINE. <br /><br />Yes, the government provides health insurance (hard to find doctors who take it) at 133% of the poverty level. That comes out to $29,327 for a family of four. That's right, less than $30,000 for a family of Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-56607862319627894162009-09-03T17:41:40.200+00:002009-09-03T17:41:40.200+00:00Quod erat demonstratum.Quod erat demonstratum.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16902329503560660425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-60290050414112099992009-09-03T16:18:33.286+00:002009-09-03T16:18:33.286+00:00Your system still stinks, though, as it costs twic...Your system still stinks, though, as it costs twice as much as, but only provides 83% of the coverage that ours does (100%). You can make all the excuses you want for it, but one thing I don't have to excuse is the premise of the NHS, being that access to healthcare is totally decoupled from ability to pay for it. When Americans don't have to choose which finger they can afford to have Scope Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01917477822313579400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-49377513653791851592009-09-03T11:24:46.907+00:002009-09-03T11:24:46.907+00:00And this is why I'm thick for letting myself g...And this is why I'm thick for letting myself get sucked into internet "discussions."<br /><br />THE POOR IN THE STATES GET GOVERNMENT HEALTH INSURANCE UP TO 133% OF THE POVERTY LINE. <br /><br />The US government spends as much on providing health insurance, as a percentage of GDP, as the UK.<br /><br />The top 50% of income earners in the US pay all the income tax, and the richer Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16902329503560660425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-5305214588931027002009-09-02T17:22:33.348+00:002009-09-02T17:22:33.348+00:00I don't think Bryan has quite hit the nail on ...I don't think Bryan has quite hit the nail on the head. One doesn't need to punish failure in order to reward success. It's a bit more venal than that...if that is possible. <br /><br />It's rather a case of the rich and powerful pulling up the ladder after them. What is the point in paying through the nose for healthcare if some interfering 'liberal' is going to pass lawsScope Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01917477822313579400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-71693411194164702552009-09-02T17:00:13.030+00:002009-09-02T17:00:13.030+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Scope Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01917477822313579400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-92196866349414713072009-09-02T14:03:58.121+00:002009-09-02T14:03:58.121+00:00Just to be clear about two things: First, I'm...Just to be clear about two things: First, I'm not saying that our system is problem free. I'm saying that the problems are not what the people pushing reform say they are and thus reform won't solve them.<br /><br />Second, I never said that the uninsured were only, or mostly, illegal immigrants (although in my part of the country a large number of the illegal imigrants are white, Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16902329503560660425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-80648670500929915212009-09-01T22:27:49.311+00:002009-09-01T22:27:49.311+00:00Just to be clear, I'm not saying I prefer the ...Just to be clear, I'm not saying I prefer the American system to the NHS. I'd like a more balanced system than either of those, but if I had to choose between those two only, I'd choose the NHS.Michael Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-43672465181534166762009-09-01T01:44:22.905+00:002009-09-01T01:44:22.905+00:00If we are going to throw stats around, let's t...If we are going to throw stats around, let's throw studies around. Here is a pdf document that offers a look into insurance status and infant mortality in Rhode Island in the 1990s:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.ritecare.ri.gov/documents/reports_publications/Rhode%20Island%20Infant%20Mortality%20-%20March2002.pdf" rel="nofollow">Rhode Island Infant Mortality 1990-1999: Changes in Causes of Rus Bowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08412920154921512774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-48721299602623351872009-09-01T01:04:54.292+00:002009-09-01T01:04:54.292+00:00Skipper - Are you saying that there are no minorit...Skipper - Are you saying that there are no minorities in the UK? But OK, if it helps you. The infant mortality rate for non-hispanic white mothers in West Virginia was 7.67Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-68955796908706670892009-09-01T00:57:37.882+00:002009-09-01T00:57:37.882+00:00And just for fun, [US Infant Mortality] is 6.4.
J...<i>And just for fun, [US Infant Mortality] is 6.4.</i><br /><br />Just for fun, find the infant mortality for European Americans. <br /><br />If you are going to throw statistics around, it is best to compare like against like.Hey Skipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798930502187234974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-21873939007403428922009-08-31T22:48:33.623+00:002009-08-31T22:48:33.623+00:00Okay, then. So let's switch it around for a wh...Okay, then. So let's switch it around for a while to be fair, and give the poor people the finest health care this nation can provide, and the rich people the worse deal. That way we don't have to worry about everyone getting mediocre care.<br /><br />Yours,<br />RusRus Bowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08412920154921512774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-26947157057658118362009-08-31T21:49:53.568+00:002009-08-31T21:49:53.568+00:00Tom P. said:
I believe Michael Smith's theor...Tom P. said:<br /><br /><i> I believe Michael Smith's theory about NHS equalizing mediocrity is incorrect because wealthy people can always buy additional health care. </i><br /><br />Tom, that use of private health care would be outside the service provided by the NHS and would therefore be an example of <b>inequality</b> allowing higher standards. Everybody within the traditional NHS would Michael Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-37730055687152290032009-08-31T20:42:53.363+00:002009-08-31T20:42:53.363+00:00Just to add one more thing... the claim that the u...Just to add one more thing... the claim that the uninsured are just illegal immigrants. 48% of the 40 million people who are uninsured are white (Hispanics represent less than one-third). I am assuming that David does not believe that these white people are illegal immigrants. Or perhaps he thinks that there has been a huge influx of illegals pouring across the Canadian border. Anyway, the Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-17765844333879722022009-08-31T17:36:24.503+00:002009-08-31T17:36:24.503+00:00I believe Michael Smith's theory about NHS equ...I believe Michael Smith's theory about NHS equalizing mediocrity is incorrect because wealthy people can always buy additional health care.Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-39690559203575594912009-08-31T17:31:48.557+00:002009-08-31T17:31:48.557+00:00Sean - I just checked the infant mortality rates f...Sean - I just checked the infant mortality rates for the UK and Ireland. UK is 5.0 and Ireland is 5.2. And just for fun, the US is 6.4.Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-20549942265192340902009-08-31T17:29:22.195+00:002009-08-31T17:29:22.195+00:00My niece who recently graduated from college is in...My niece who recently graduated from college is in the set of middle class Americans who can't get health care insurance. She can only get a part time job without benefits so she can't afford to pay for both health care and her student loan. She is keeping her fingers crossed that she doesn't get sick. <br /><br />If I lost my job I would be in a lot of trouble too. I could never Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.com