tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post4222215270134362375..comments2023-11-03T11:32:01.540+00:00Comments on Thought Experiments : The Blog: Dawkins' ConvertsBryan Appleyardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08276787058430388582noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-58530572101046061982009-12-13T11:33:38.706+00:002009-12-13T11:33:38.706+00:00Darwinism is very definitely a religion, complete ...Darwinism is very definitely a religion, complete with a single God, Charles Darwin and a bunch of patron saints, Ernst Mayr, Stephen Jay Gould, William Provine, Paul Zachary Myers and Richard Dawkins, atheists all. Their altar is a roulette wheel flanked by a pair of very fuzzy dice on one side and a Bingo board on the other. <br /><br />The motive of this "movement" is to destroy the John A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-7279184798236392222009-12-13T04:28:27.743+00:002009-12-13T04:28:27.743+00:00There's a whole lot of praying to the almighty...There's a whole lot of praying to the almighty buck, and to the fat ego god of political power going on in "science" nowadays. As scientists step into public policy, as they are hired for profiteering by profit-driven corporations, and as they compete for grants and other moneys, they've got their archbishops preaching their hubris and gospels, this time in the name of almighty Rus Bowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08412920154921512774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-13399844454245981072009-12-12T23:39:41.260+00:002009-12-12T23:39:41.260+00:00Alan Fox follows me around like a dog. He is one m...Alan Fox follows me around like a dog. He is one man goon squad representing the interests of Pee Zee Myers, Richard Dawkins and Wesley Elsberry.<br /><br />I love it so!<br /><br />jadavison.wordpress.comJohn A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-23514726318758434942009-12-12T22:23:47.140+00:002009-12-12T22:23:47.140+00:00@ Bryan Appleyard
"Darwinism is neither a re...@ Bryan Appleyard<br /><br />"Darwinism is neither a religion nor an “ideological belief system”.<br /><br />There are no Darwinist Popes or Archbishops. There are no Darwinist churches. Darwinists do not gather together every Sunday to sing the praises of evolution and pray to the Great God Darwin to be forgiven for not being as fit as he would have liked.<br /><br />There is no Darwinist Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-4667056698434567212009-12-11T20:00:52.283+00:002009-12-11T20:00:52.283+00:00kynefski
I am sorry if I come off as a hostile ol...kynefski<br /><br />I am sorry if I come off as a hostile old malcontent which is probably a pretty accurate description. It is also perfectly possible that I am paranoid. I am reminded of Henry Kissinger's quip -<br /><br />"Even a paranoid can have enemies."<br /><br />God knows I have plenty of enemies - silent, mostly anonymous enemies who pretend I do not exist. Richard DawkinsJohn A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-11569357741202793052009-12-11T17:55:44.575+00:002009-12-11T17:55:44.575+00:00Hi Tom,
Now you are doing the same thing to me, t...Hi Tom,<br /><br />Now you are doing the same thing to me, trying to act as if all of science is behind anything you say, just like the earth is not flat, such that you must be right and don't have to make any argument. I'm giving you feedback that unless you back up what you say, you don't sound like you know what you are talking about. It sounds more like you are following what Rus Bowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08412920154921512774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-10966729154927521542009-12-11T17:05:58.104+00:002009-12-11T17:05:58.104+00:00Thanks. I had run across that online, but not with...Thanks. I had run across that online, but not with the figures. You've introduced me to an important source of genetic variation.Ken Pidcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236539087094493564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-89919722350389372462009-12-11T16:05:41.087+00:002009-12-11T16:05:41.087+00:00My unpublished "An Evolutionary Manifesto: A ...My unpublished "An Evolutionary Manifesto: A New Hypothesis for Organic Change" was written for consumption by my undergraduate Biology students who had no difficulty understanding it. All that is really required is a rudimentary understanding of Mendelian genetics, mitosis and meiosis, the mechanism by which the diploid (2N) number of chromosomes becomes reduced to the haploid (1N) John A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-27520594002508052872009-12-11T15:26:38.421+00:002009-12-11T15:26:38.421+00:00kynefski
I am not on trial here and do not choose...kynefski<br /><br />I am not on trial here and do not choose to be further engaged or respond to questions I have already answered. My work, like that of my sources, is freely available to anyone who is able and willing to comprehend it. <br /><br />There is no room for either debate or discussion in science. Debates are for lawyers, philosophers, politicians and other questionable types. John A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-42570116918097457882009-12-11T14:25:19.575+00:002009-12-11T14:25:19.575+00:00Russ, suppose you were on a blog and someone insis...Russ, suppose you were on a blog and someone insisted that the Earth was flat. There is plenty of scientific information to prove the Earth is not flat but this person has convinced themselves that only they are right and the rest of the world is wrong. Would you spend your time trying to convince this person they were wrong when you know that they will never change their mind no matter what Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-52648780649710934902009-12-11T14:12:11.035+00:002009-12-11T14:12:11.035+00:00Evolution, when it did occur, employed a different...<i>Evolution, when it did occur, employed a different means which I have proposed as the semi-meotic hypothesis</i><br /><br />Thank you, John, for giving us the tag. Do you have a simple statement of this that is not embedded in a treatise? By this, I don't mean to be snarky, I just mean to save myself some time.Ken Pidcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236539087094493564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-64512466438737399432009-12-11T12:03:23.510+00:002009-12-11T12:03:23.510+00:00kynefski
I do not regard resistance to antibiotic...kynefski<br /><br />I do not regard resistance to antibiotics and insecticides as examples of creative evolution and here is why. They are reversible. Insecticide resistance is lost when the insecticide is no longer used. The same can be said or many other reversible phenomenena. For example, dog breeds when they become feral, in a few generations revert back to the wolf phenotype as selection John A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-50773032266349526982009-12-11T11:26:48.826+00:002009-12-11T11:26:48.826+00:00Hi Tom,
You therefore insist on being unreasonabl...Hi Tom,<br /><br />You therefore insist on being unreasonable yourself. So your code that we should all have figured out with your explanation, is that when you are being unreasonable, it is because you find the person you are arguing with to be unreasonable. We should then say to ourselves, "Oh, Tom is always unreasonable in this blog, because he senses there are unreasonable people here-Rus Bowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08412920154921512774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-24476480513401896742009-12-11T04:33:53.832+00:002009-12-11T04:33:53.832+00:00I KNOW that evolution occurred. I DO NOT KNOW that...<i> I KNOW that evolution occurred. I DO NOT KNOW that it is still occurring and neither does anyone else</i><br /><br />Just today, I was working with carbapenemase-producing <i>Klebsiella pneumoniae</i>, bacteria that have evolved resistance to one of the few classes of antibacterial agents that had previously been effective against them.<br /><br />Go ahead, John, explain to the families of Ken Pidcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236539087094493564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-7381827613081793552009-12-11T01:59:14.713+00:002009-12-11T01:59:14.713+00:00I am more than happy to discuss things with reason...I am more than happy to discuss things with reasonable people. I don't consider anti-evolutionists reasonable any more than I consider ghost chasers or people who believe in alien kidnapping to be reasonable. If the argument is, "I have a BS in accounting but I have studied evolution and know more than all the scientists on the planet," then I have no interest in having a Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-43207633454553849732009-12-10T23:19:20.722+00:002009-12-10T23:19:20.722+00:00Hi Tom,
You said:
This is not a science blog and...Hi Tom,<br /><br />You said:<br /><br /><i>This is not a science blog and in any case I don't waste my time arguing with idiots.</i><br /><br />And:<br /><br /><i>Or "Don't cast pearls before swine."</i><br /><br />What are you accomplishing, then, if not wanting to put forward an argument--just hanging out with the swine, keeping your pearls in your pockets? Or should any Rus Bowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08412920154921512774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-55669833759791800072009-12-10T18:51:31.476+00:002009-12-10T18:51:31.476+00:00Tom P.
I am through trying to communicate here. T...Tom P.<br /><br />I am through trying to communicate here. The answers to your questions can be found on my blog and elsewhere.<br /><br />"You can lead a man to the literature but you cannot make him read." <br />after the horse that refused to drink.<br /><br />jadavison.wordpress.comJohn A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-63438753411783934752009-12-10T15:27:11.224+00:002009-12-10T15:27:11.224+00:00"I KNOW that evolution occurred. I DO NOT KNO..."I KNOW that evolution occurred. I DO NOT KNOW that it is still occurring and neither does anyone else."<br /><br />An odd statement. So when did it stop? 20 minutes ago? An hour ago? 10 million years ago? There seems to be bacteria evolving this very minute to be immune to our antibiotics that would consider your statement to be incorrect. <br /><br />In any case, your statement Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-18412337600058009362009-12-10T14:55:18.096+00:002009-12-10T14:55:18.096+00:00traherne, Tom P. and others as well.
I have no id...traherne, Tom P. and others as well.<br /><br />I have no idea where you got the notion that I don't believe in evolution. I KNOW that evolution occurred. I DO NOT KNOW that it is still occurring and neither does anyone else. Some may think it is occurring but none have answered my several challenges to provide the evidence that supports their belief. <br /><br />I am getting a little tired John A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-30419393838223714482009-12-10T13:37:27.512+00:002009-12-10T13:37:27.512+00:00"The major obstacle to our understanding of p..."The major obstacle to our understanding of phylogeny resides in the fact that it is no longer occurring."<br /><br />phy·log·e·ny (f-lj-n)<br />n. pl. phy·log·e·nies<br />1. The evolutionary development and history of a species or higher taxonomic grouping of organisms. Also called phylogenesis.<br />2. The evolutionary development of an organ or other part of an organism: e.g.the trahernehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03554983022190670978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-5445070113129445272009-12-10T11:36:39.796+00:002009-12-10T11:36:39.796+00:00kynefski
I do understand that most people believe...kynefski<br /><br />I do understand that most people believe that macroevolution is microevolution plus time. That is definitely not true. <br /><br />"An hypothesis does not cease to be an hypothesis when a lot of people believe it."<br />Boris Ephrussi<br /><br />The major obstacle to our understanding of phylogeny resides in the fact that it is no longer occurring.<br /><br />I have John A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-15552046362278692472009-12-09T23:33:58.458+00:002009-12-09T23:33:58.458+00:00Hi Tom,
Why not develop an argument instead of th...Hi Tom,<br /><br />Why not develop an argument instead of these one- and two-liner reactions you've been posting--almost as if to silence someone, or as if "all of sceince" may be watching or some such thing? I'd love to read what you would have to say. But, nothing gets forwarded the way you are doing it, though, almost 100% insult with allusions to someone's thought Rus Bowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08412920154921512774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-25441785586771066832009-12-09T22:45:36.972+00:002009-12-09T22:45:36.972+00:00Tom P.
Charles Darwin was not a scientist of any ...Tom P.<br /><br />Charles Darwin was not a scientist of any sort. He was a second rate naturalist. Alfred Russel Wallace was a much better naturalist and a first class scientist who had the good sense to completely abandon the nonsense he co-authored with Darwin in his youth. Consider the title of his last book -<br /><br />"The World of Life: A Manifestation of Creative Power, Directive John A. Davisonhttp://jadavison.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-19108314171952859362009-12-09T21:43:40.196+00:002009-12-09T21:43:40.196+00:00John, I trust you understand that, as generally un...John, I trust you understand that, as generally understood, macroevolution is just microevolution plus time.Ken Pidcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236539087094493564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-32139472033428013812009-12-09T20:02:17.542+00:002009-12-09T20:02:17.542+00:00"Darwin's proposal can only generate intr..."Darwin's proposal can only generate intraspecific varieties and subspecies none of which are incipient species in any event."<br /><br />A person must be a true narcissist to insist that only he is right and all of science is wrong. And now I am sure that we will get John comparing himself to Einstein and Newton and how Darwin was a terrible scientist because he didn't speak Tom P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05638283790763940692noreply@blogger.com