tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post5128209398547283379..comments2023-11-03T11:32:01.540+00:00Comments on Thought Experiments : The Blog: The Delusions of the Italicised LeftBryan Appleyardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08276787058430388582noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-90347198611812025372009-04-16T16:05:00.000+00:002009-04-16T16:05:00.000+00:00And Councillor Antonia Bance is embraced by Oxfam,...And Councillor Antonia Bance is embraced by Oxfam, where she heads the UK poverty campaign. Indeed Oxfam which has become Gordon Brown's recruiting ground for people who can polish his image: Justin Forsyth, Brendan Cox, Stephen Doughty...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-58936278283167503772009-04-15T14:35:00.000+00:002009-04-15T14:35:00.000+00:00As an empiricist-evangelical - something I've neve...As an empiricist-evangelical - something I've never articulated before so thanks - I can say nothing against your experience S-Bob. I have also met the very good at the local, lower echelons of Labour.<br /><br />As an evangelical empiricist I feel the three areas you mention at the end are a tiny bit different. There's no doubt though that the so-called Christian right in America has come on Richard Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10005416556432927671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-52166602081407796432009-04-15T13:20:00.000+00:002009-04-15T13:20:00.000+00:00I agree with you about Aitken, Richard. My point ...I agree with you about Aitken, Richard. My point was that somewhere down the line someone fouls up and brings the whole shooting match into disrepute. And I'm as turned off by liberal righteousness as much as anybody else. <br /><br />In my past I got involved with a local ward Labour Party - and I was taken by what a thoroughly decent bunch they were. I've retained a distrust of the Spongebobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-24530469866451352312009-04-15T12:51:00.000+00:002009-04-15T12:51:00.000+00:00Brit: hear hear on first past post.
Malty: Atlee ...Brit: hear hear on first past post.<br /><br />Malty: Atlee went to the old school, my father met him a couple of times, big part of my anecdotal history, delightful, thoroughly decent, just like Field, agreed.<br /><br />Spongebob: Very good points, the only difference between left and right being (as Tom Sowell points out in The Vision of the Anointed) that in a political disagreement the rightRichard Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10005416556432927671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-46826176792132424142009-04-15T11:35:00.000+00:002009-04-15T11:35:00.000+00:00They've been in power too long, it always goes the...They've been in power too long, it always goes the same way - doesn't matter which party it is.<br /><br />This is why we need to keep the first past the post system. With PR you can never get rid of the bastards, which you need to do in a huge cathartic electoral avalanche every decade or so.Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-17986990788199317552009-04-15T10:59:00.000+00:002009-04-15T10:59:00.000+00:00There are good, sincere, civic-minded folks on the...There are good, sincere, civic-minded folks on the left, on the right and in the middle. They join political parties at ward level, do leafleting in all weathers, try to take action on things like improving litter collection, confronting anti-social behaviour where they can, generall attempting to help others along. There's a good number of these folks still out there. Problem is, there ain't Spongebobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-73460987692417391152009-04-15T10:06:00.000+00:002009-04-15T10:06:00.000+00:00Nick is of the true left, as opposed to the loony ...Nick is of the true left, as opposed to the loony left, the old left, the new left and now the italicised left.<br /><br />At least, he claims to be of the true left - can't think why he'd want to; it all seems a bit People's Front of Judea. Why can't he just be Nick Cohen, because that's obviously what he is.Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-35885024895405560272009-04-15T09:49:00.000+00:002009-04-15T09:49:00.000+00:00Nick Cohen's of the left ? blimey, every day, some...Nick Cohen's of the left ? blimey, every day, something new.<br />The left of course is a state of mind rather than a political entity, most sane people get over it at the end of puberty, except Weggie Benn of course, who had the ideal credentials, being a certified toff.<br />The last truly socialist administration ended with Clem Attlee, ever since then we've been inundated with pretenders.<br maltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936465848907794425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-76972404264420663812009-04-15T08:45:00.000+00:002009-04-15T08:45:00.000+00:00when he goes - and I think he should - what then?when he goes - and I think he should - what then?Ian russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106519805045337505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-90636097582259042282009-04-15T08:39:00.000+00:002009-04-15T08:39:00.000+00:00PS a more relaxed view of trolling just picked up ...PS a more relaxed view of <A HREF="http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/2009/04/we-didnt-start-flame-war.html" REL="nofollow">trolling</A> just picked up on twitter. It all depends on one's experienceRichard Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10005416556432927671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-59842731757147034722009-04-15T08:11:00.000+00:002009-04-15T08:11:00.000+00:00Nice to read such a tribute to Frank Field. The re...Nice to read such a tribute to Frank Field. The related issue is how any government can avoid becoming victim to the blogscape broadly defined - taking in Twitter, Facebook and myriads of interactive fora. The <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7996000/7996495.stm" REL="nofollow">wiki world</A> as Evan Davies (4:09) called it on Monday. Martin Kettle replied that Labour had beenRichard Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10005416556432927671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-45910669224993508142009-04-15T08:02:00.000+00:002009-04-15T08:02:00.000+00:00I think you are right about the month Bryan, but w...I think you are right about the month Bryan, but wrong about the year - unfortunately. He will be gone by June 4th, 2010. God, it looks worse in printmahlermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14469854614938507153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-57922418639487675252009-04-15T07:56:00.000+00:002009-04-15T07:56:00.000+00:00So how do we know if someone is a non-italicised l...So how do we know if someone is a non-italicised leftie or an italicised one? Is it like U and non-U?Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-18743679466336639472009-04-15T07:54:00.000+00:002009-04-15T07:54:00.000+00:00So how do if someone is a non-italicised leftie or...So how do if someone is a non-italicised leftie or an italicised one? Is it like U and non-U?Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23400750.post-26254320092390442092009-04-15T07:08:00.000+00:002009-04-15T07:08:00.000+00:00Golly, you were up early. Brown won't be gone by ...Golly, you were up early. Brown won't be gone by June. He's hit rock bottom and is holding on to those "green shoots" for dear life. His creatures, because they were all formed in an intellectual and moral vacuum, have no choice but to stick with him.Sophie Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212037697701712380noreply@blogger.com